Touché. Been a Blazer fan since 1970 when I was in the womb. I actually like the Heat and love coach Spo who got his start in PDX. I am just having a little fun with you Heat fans. I think Riley let his pride, ego, and a good dose of hubris get in the way of making he Heat a better team this off-season. Am I wrong?
This Portland Lillard story, if anything, shows the difference in thinking between two franchises, both front offices and fan bases.
Lillard is great player, and Miami offer what seems to be a generous offer for, I believe front office, and most fans. We value our players high, but rest of the leagues value Heat players, except Bam and Butler, low for whatever reason.
The difference is here.
Miami is searching for overlooked players and make them good players. And try to get already established great players, when available, like Lillard. Most teams prefer to have high pick and talented players, and some sell their best players to get those, like Portland did.
So, you and most teams fans could be happy with what you get for Lillard. But for Miami fan like me you get an former first pick, which didnt prove his value, and center, which is injuried a lot. And who needs centers which doesnt shoot threes or make plays nowadays?
Nobody besides Portland, which needs two of them.
Picks?
Miami last pick bellow no. 10 was back in 2008. Miami can live without high picks.
Miami made two finals and one east finals in past 4 years, with players not valuable. Portland tanked for last 2 years and will tank for 2-3 years at least.
I m not dissapointed about Lillard. Somebody else will come in Miami sooner or later to help win it all. I wonder who will want in Portland after this summer.
Manila Heat pretty much sums up my feelings. If I was a Portland fan, I’d be looking forward to seeing how this young team develops rather than trolling a fan base of one of the more successful teams of the past 20 years. A team that rarely has the luxury of high draft picks, yet somehow is in the mix with 5-7 G leaguers on the roster, including 3 starters last season.
No one knows what or who Pat really listed on that offer. I personally congratulate Portland for the "success" of their off season. Riley, imo, just offered what he can without tearing the finals team he had recently. And that's reasonable...well for some of us here but not everyone. To each his own. The effect of all this drama will be seen by next yr and come playoffs.
Yeah you’re wrong loser. Being a blazer fan must suck, you don’t celebrate winning rather sticking it to a FO it’s rather pathetic. A team and fan base of losers just happy to be mentioned in the same breathe as Mia while being a sorry ass team that hasn’t won anything of importance since the fucking 70s, but hey celebrate trading another franchise guy away while he wins somewhere else whilst the team you root for stays in the basement. But hey y’all stuck it to Riley is y’all championship
Lol you’re the one on another teams site happy you lost your franchise player. If dame wins in Milwaukee it doesn’t mean the blazers get a ring you do know this? Also what’s lost in all of this and until further notice Tyler Herro>any player on the Blazers roster
Yep, there it is! I went on your site to poke a little fun because for the last three months Heat fans have been on our sites trying to convince us that Tyler Herro is an all-star and we should be grateful for the offer consisting of Herro and collective trash cap filler. Everyone in the league knows Herro is an okay player on an over-priced contract and plays a position where the Blazers have young players, under rookie contracts, with high upsides. If Herro was such a great player other teams would have called Riley when he became available for trades, but the phone never rang and now you are stuck with an over-priced guard who is butt-hurt. Good luck with that.
And I never went on that loser site for shit. Just stating facts. Y’all can shit on herro all you want but nobody on the blazers is better rn that’s what I’m saying loser
Was the best late 4th quarter clutch player in the league last season. Was #1 in ft % in the league. Won 6moy the previous season. Has averaged 20/5/4 with 38% 3pt% last 2 seasons. In his 4 seasons, he’s averaged 38% 3pt% - Lillard career average is 37% . Neither plays much defense. Herro will likely never come close to Lillard’s greatness, but to discount him as some type of player no team would want is ludicrous. You have no idea what was offered for him and what the Heat May have turned down.
Changing your handle by one letter would be appropriate. sad, not sid.
Proof is in the pudding baby. There are 29 NBA teams who do not value Herro as much as the Heat do. Some Heat fans seem to be suffering from a bad case of myopia when it comes to Herro. Supply and demand...you got the supply, but there ain't no demand.
Suck it Pat Riley. Tried to play hardball with the Blazers and watched Milwaukie and Boston get significantly better. There is no way the Heat can spin this to make it look like anything other than a self inflicted wound. Hubris and karma caught up with Pat Riley. Heat "culture" takes a hit.
The green teams in the east are just stacking up to try to dethrone the 8th seeded ecf champs. Imagine that. Too much trouble we caused these so-called contenders.
I just want to express something very third il and probably noone will see it because this thread is days old but I want to stick up for Tyler Herro. Not only is he a very good player, but a good teammate and a class act. Here comes the controversial part....It is true that many, if not all, teams undervalue him but that is for a series of reasons that boil down to is a finesse player who happens to be white. This is where the people who don't see his full potential are wrong. He is the real deal, the rarest of the rare, a quick twitch, highly athletic player who has come around quite infrequently in the NBA. I can name only a few, Maravich, Havlicek, and to a slightly lesser extent White Chocolate and Danny Ainge. Thats it that I can think of. Obviously there have been plenty of successful white gaurds and white big men, but players of this kind of athleticism, who play the two or three, who happen to be white (and not often black either) are rare indeed. And it matters because his atheticism is not far from that of the best of black point gaurds, Iversonesque, if you will. This means he's so quick that noone blows by him easily, and he isn't going to jump early on a fake. The only way you beat him regularly defensively is to out muscle him, which is his weakness. But, even there he's bulked up enough that he no should be adequate defensively, and on team defense he's quick enough to get steals. And, offensively, his creativity is very high, as he can score of the dribble, has good hops, has good vision and passing, and has a clutchness about him that stands out over most. Another weakness is his point gaurd work, where he doesn't protect the ball quite well enough and I doubt he can improve there so shouldn't be bringing the ball up. And, did I also mention he ever misses free throws. Despite all this, he is somewhat undervalued and its a little unfair. People should watch him play closer, see how he moves. I think Miami fans think better of him than everyone else because we see him game in and out.
Well written and thoughtful post. Hopefully fences can be mended and he can feel like an appreciated part of the team again. It is a business and this was his first exposure to that. Most Blazers fans did not want him as part of the Dame trade because we are excited about Scoot, Shaedon, and Anfernee developing and getting opportunities to flourish. Seems like a good dude and has proven skills but not playing a position of need for Blazers.
I agree. It was just a poor fit with the Blazers. But, the rest of the league did not seem to embrace his availability in accordance with his value. I thought of one other player in his mold, Detlef Shrempf. But, I think Herro has a little more natural quick twitch athleticism than Shrempf. It would not be impossible to envision Herro becoming even more effective than he already has been in the future. He is a very gifted athlete.
Yes, I always thought they would find a third team wanting him in a Dame trade. Rumor out here was Utah and Brooklyn had interest in being that 3rd team. Schrempf? I haven't thought of him in a while. I used to love watching him and AC Green go at it in College. Those Beaver Husky matchups in the 80's were stellar and their careers in college and the NBA were great. RIP PAC-10.
Mia ecf/finals team Portland celebrating sticking it to Mia FO. Honestly it’s the epitome of there’s levels to this. But what do you expect from a loser franchise. It’s fans celebrating being a lottery team while Mia is what they can only wish their team was like. Happy they didn’t trade players to Mia cause the media told them too
I don't know about Boston. Seems like a push to me. Their best defense against Jimmy was Williams. Same would be true against Embiid and Giannis.
Maybe I'm betting low on Porzingis, when was his last meaningful playoff basketball though? Have we seen him have to adjust his game in a series? It's 10% better Kevin Love that dynamic?
On paper definitely two favorites in the East. But we play games and seasons for a reason. Also, we have to see what Riley does, which I think is start the season and see if anything shakes out with another player.
“Start the season and see if anything shakes out with another player”
That the league and its shills (woj, fatass windhorst etc)will do everything in their power again to make sure said disgruntled player doesn’t end up in Mia
With: Lowry, Jaquez, Jovic, Love, ORobinson, DRobinson, Bryant, Highsmith, Cain, Hampton...waiting in the wings.
I can't wait to see what Jovic, Jaquez, ORobinson, Highsmith and Cain bring to the table this year. 1-2 could be starters and 1-2 more could be solid rotation players...maybe by later this season.
When it comes to trading, the question is whether either team is interested. Rozier is an intriguing player, but I can't seem to accurately determine his trade value. It would be great if 1-2 of Jovic, Jaquez, ORobinson, Highsmith, or Cain could become reliable rotation players and help elevate the team (I highly hope so). However, expecting them to start right away is unrealistic. They need to prove themselves at a higher level before being considered as potential starters. Of course, they may be called upon to start due to strategic matchups or injuries, but as legitimate starters, not yet.
"Deplorable behavior" by Blazers general manager Joe Cronin makes the idea of Miami re-engaging Portland to discuss Holiday "unappealing if not unrealistic," per Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald.
"Dame gave his heart and soul to the City of Portland.
In return the franchise surrounded him with Clowns like Allen, Olshey, Cronin, and Billups. We overpaid guys like Crabbe, Leonard, Turner and that bum Jusuf Nurkic. We traded away valuable assets, blew it in the draft and signed washed up burnt out free agents. Any and every team fleeced us at the bargaining table.
Dame remained loyal until the end.
Now we move forward with the Cronin, Billups, and Ayton. We grossly overpaid Jerami Grant. Somebody will take advantage of Cronin when we trade Jrue Holiday. We have nobody to teach the young guys Scoot, Sharp, Simmons -
Good luck Dame - Love you man.
47 years a Blazers fan - I’m officially done with this franchise.
LimitedUpside
Blazers could LOSE 1st round pick next year? Lillard revealed Cronin asked him to sit for final 10 games to improve draft position. This will trigger a league investigation and - well, that could be all they need to sanction Portland. My guess is they nullify our pick next year, which could be a Top 5 selection. Huge management mistake, and this sets the team back.
Just because he didn't tarde with Heat doesn't make him a bad gm , he is turning Lillard trade in multiples picks , I don't see brogdon playing for blazers and I can see Clippers giving 1 pick plus someone young . Pat got arrogant so the " heat culture
I spend a fair amount of time on Blazers Edge. I consider myself a Blazers fan as much as a Heat fan. But a big chunk of those people are the most miserable bunch of bastards I've ever encountered in my life. Makes me grateful for the community at HHH
I understand folks from Philly, NY, Boston or LA can behave in such way. But forums, which covers "smaller" teams doesnt differ much from HHH, at least what I saw when visiting other forums. A morron here and there, and thats it. I wonder why Portlands forum is different.
I haven't spent a bunch of time on NY or ATL fansites, but I liked talking trash with the folks in philly and celticsblog. the milwaukie one is good. dallas is good. denver is awful. golden state is bad.
i would say a good fan site is one where people talk a little bit of trash but mostly just want to talk about basketball.
Now go look at the Blazers site, see how many people are talking about positional fit or playing style for the new-look team. Then compare that to how many people are mad at Dame or mad at the Heat or just mad at the person that made the comment above theirs. Just a bunch of miserable bastards getting mad at each other. And the worst part, the one thing nobody seems to be upset about is the fact that the team stinks!
One door closes…another will open. Also Holiday is actually past his prime. He has lost a step physically. Will want huge money next year. Why take on another aging vet strapping the payroll & gutting the roster. No thanks. There will be better options ahead hopefully . Fingers crossed.
i got milw heat bost phily.we are better bryant j rich orob hampton .lose strus gabe we are better.porzingis if healthy could make bost better .as long as jim stays healthy we good
lillard doesnt want to be in milw.he wanted the gm to rescind the deal.the deal was done behind lillards back.maybe jimmys on the phone telling him pat will get it done eventually maybe he doesnt report to milw?not sure what the rule is if a player doesnt honor a trade could be a first
do u thikk jimmy asks for a trade then.he cant be happy.seems to be in la alot they gotta couple good teams there,him with ad lebron.or oft injured pg kawhi.
how do u know that.these athletes these days want $$ and rings in that order.he has $$ not ring.do u think the heat can win it all sunman with current roster
No. For them to have a chance upgrades are definitely needed. I would love to see Miami acquire a good two-way PG and a good two-way/athletic PF or C (who can shoot 3's, rebound and defend) to pair with Bam. I think ORob has potential if his defense improves.
I'm glad that this trade didn't happen. Lillard is about to start rapidly declining. We don't need old small players taking up so much of our cap space.
Touché. Been a Blazer fan since 1970 when I was in the womb. I actually like the Heat and love coach Spo who got his start in PDX. I am just having a little fun with you Heat fans. I think Riley let his pride, ego, and a good dose of hubris get in the way of making he Heat a better team this off-season. Am I wrong?
This Portland Lillard story, if anything, shows the difference in thinking between two franchises, both front offices and fan bases.
Lillard is great player, and Miami offer what seems to be a generous offer for, I believe front office, and most fans. We value our players high, but rest of the leagues value Heat players, except Bam and Butler, low for whatever reason.
The difference is here.
Miami is searching for overlooked players and make them good players. And try to get already established great players, when available, like Lillard. Most teams prefer to have high pick and talented players, and some sell their best players to get those, like Portland did.
So, you and most teams fans could be happy with what you get for Lillard. But for Miami fan like me you get an former first pick, which didnt prove his value, and center, which is injuried a lot. And who needs centers which doesnt shoot threes or make plays nowadays?
Nobody besides Portland, which needs two of them.
Picks?
Miami last pick bellow no. 10 was back in 2008. Miami can live without high picks.
Miami made two finals and one east finals in past 4 years, with players not valuable. Portland tanked for last 2 years and will tank for 2-3 years at least.
I m not dissapointed about Lillard. Somebody else will come in Miami sooner or later to help win it all. I wonder who will want in Portland after this summer.
Manila Heat pretty much sums up my feelings. If I was a Portland fan, I’d be looking forward to seeing how this young team develops rather than trolling a fan base of one of the more successful teams of the past 20 years. A team that rarely has the luxury of high draft picks, yet somehow is in the mix with 5-7 G leaguers on the roster, including 3 starters last season.
No one knows what or who Pat really listed on that offer. I personally congratulate Portland for the "success" of their off season. Riley, imo, just offered what he can without tearing the finals team he had recently. And that's reasonable...well for some of us here but not everyone. To each his own. The effect of all this drama will be seen by next yr and come playoffs.
Yeah you’re wrong loser. Being a blazer fan must suck, you don’t celebrate winning rather sticking it to a FO it’s rather pathetic. A team and fan base of losers just happy to be mentioned in the same breathe as Mia while being a sorry ass team that hasn’t won anything of importance since the fucking 70s, but hey celebrate trading another franchise guy away while he wins somewhere else whilst the team you root for stays in the basement. But hey y’all stuck it to Riley is y’all championship
Settle down Beavis. You are proof that "Florida Man" does exist. Lay off the bath salts dude.
Lol you’re the one on another teams site happy you lost your franchise player. If dame wins in Milwaukee it doesn’t mean the blazers get a ring you do know this? Also what’s lost in all of this and until further notice Tyler Herro>any player on the Blazers roster
Yep, there it is! I went on your site to poke a little fun because for the last three months Heat fans have been on our sites trying to convince us that Tyler Herro is an all-star and we should be grateful for the offer consisting of Herro and collective trash cap filler. Everyone in the league knows Herro is an okay player on an over-priced contract and plays a position where the Blazers have young players, under rookie contracts, with high upsides. If Herro was such a great player other teams would have called Riley when he became available for trades, but the phone never rang and now you are stuck with an over-priced guard who is butt-hurt. Good luck with that.
And I never went on that loser site for shit. Just stating facts. Y’all can shit on herro all you want but nobody on the blazers is better rn that’s what I’m saying loser
Was the best late 4th quarter clutch player in the league last season. Was #1 in ft % in the league. Won 6moy the previous season. Has averaged 20/5/4 with 38% 3pt% last 2 seasons. In his 4 seasons, he’s averaged 38% 3pt% - Lillard career average is 37% . Neither plays much defense. Herro will likely never come close to Lillard’s greatness, but to discount him as some type of player no team would want is ludicrous. You have no idea what was offered for him and what the Heat May have turned down.
Changing your handle by one letter would be appropriate. sad, not sid.
Proof is in the pudding baby. There are 29 NBA teams who do not value Herro as much as the Heat do. Some Heat fans seem to be suffering from a bad case of myopia when it comes to Herro. Supply and demand...you got the supply, but there ain't no demand.
Suck it Pat Riley. Tried to play hardball with the Blazers and watched Milwaukie and Boston get significantly better. There is no way the Heat can spin this to make it look like anything other than a self inflicted wound. Hubris and karma caught up with Pat Riley. Heat "culture" takes a hit.
The green teams in the east are just stacking up to try to dethrone the 8th seeded ecf champs. Imagine that. Too much trouble we caused these so-called contenders.
Bwahahahaha!
Sorry, I didn’t know they are now handing out trophies and rings in October.
You're right, my bad, they did win the chip in June so there is no reason the Heat would need to try to improve their team...Oh, wait...?
I just want to express something very third il and probably noone will see it because this thread is days old but I want to stick up for Tyler Herro. Not only is he a very good player, but a good teammate and a class act. Here comes the controversial part....It is true that many, if not all, teams undervalue him but that is for a series of reasons that boil down to is a finesse player who happens to be white. This is where the people who don't see his full potential are wrong. He is the real deal, the rarest of the rare, a quick twitch, highly athletic player who has come around quite infrequently in the NBA. I can name only a few, Maravich, Havlicek, and to a slightly lesser extent White Chocolate and Danny Ainge. Thats it that I can think of. Obviously there have been plenty of successful white gaurds and white big men, but players of this kind of athleticism, who play the two or three, who happen to be white (and not often black either) are rare indeed. And it matters because his atheticism is not far from that of the best of black point gaurds, Iversonesque, if you will. This means he's so quick that noone blows by him easily, and he isn't going to jump early on a fake. The only way you beat him regularly defensively is to out muscle him, which is his weakness. But, even there he's bulked up enough that he no should be adequate defensively, and on team defense he's quick enough to get steals. And, offensively, his creativity is very high, as he can score of the dribble, has good hops, has good vision and passing, and has a clutchness about him that stands out over most. Another weakness is his point gaurd work, where he doesn't protect the ball quite well enough and I doubt he can improve there so shouldn't be bringing the ball up. And, did I also mention he ever misses free throws. Despite all this, he is somewhat undervalued and its a little unfair. People should watch him play closer, see how he moves. I think Miami fans think better of him than everyone else because we see him game in and out.
Well written and thoughtful post. Hopefully fences can be mended and he can feel like an appreciated part of the team again. It is a business and this was his first exposure to that. Most Blazers fans did not want him as part of the Dame trade because we are excited about Scoot, Shaedon, and Anfernee developing and getting opportunities to flourish. Seems like a good dude and has proven skills but not playing a position of need for Blazers.
I agree. It was just a poor fit with the Blazers. But, the rest of the league did not seem to embrace his availability in accordance with his value. I thought of one other player in his mold, Detlef Shrempf. But, I think Herro has a little more natural quick twitch athleticism than Shrempf. It would not be impossible to envision Herro becoming even more effective than he already has been in the future. He is a very gifted athlete.
Yes, I always thought they would find a third team wanting him in a Dame trade. Rumor out here was Utah and Brooklyn had interest in being that 3rd team. Schrempf? I haven't thought of him in a while. I used to love watching him and AC Green go at it in College. Those Beaver Husky matchups in the 80's were stellar and their careers in college and the NBA were great. RIP PAC-10.
When did your team last win? Or do you just switch as you go along to whoever is winning?
Where did you read that the Heat don’t need to improve? Not on this site.
Let’s just see how the season plays out. As the old saying goes, games are won on the court, not on paper.
Mia ecf/finals team Portland celebrating sticking it to Mia FO. Honestly it’s the epitome of there’s levels to this. But what do you expect from a loser franchise. It’s fans celebrating being a lottery team while Mia is what they can only wish their team was like. Happy they didn’t trade players to Mia cause the media told them too
(Except in baseball)
Cam Payne to Milw. The green teams are stacking up to beat the read hot in the east
ok pat its your turn now
Who's left?
Jrue to the Celtics
dallas 28 pats 3
Bucks and Celtics definitely improved their rosters. With Lillard and Porzingis, things could get a bit dicey based on injury history.
I don't know about Boston. Seems like a push to me. Their best defense against Jimmy was Williams. Same would be true against Embiid and Giannis.
Maybe I'm betting low on Porzingis, when was his last meaningful playoff basketball though? Have we seen him have to adjust his game in a series? It's 10% better Kevin Love that dynamic?
On paper definitely two favorites in the East. But we play games and seasons for a reason. Also, we have to see what Riley does, which I think is start the season and see if anything shakes out with another player.
“Start the season and see if anything shakes out with another player”
That the league and its shills (woj, fatass windhorst etc)will do everything in their power again to make sure said disgruntled player doesn’t end up in Mia
If we can get Terry Rozier (PG) for DRobinson and a pick, that would be great. If not, Herro for Rozier and Kai (Head Trip) Jones (C).
Starters: Rozier, Herro, Butler, Martin, Bam -OR- Rozier, Richardson, Butler, Martin, Bam
With: Lowry, Jaquez, Jovic, Love, ORobinson, DRobinson, Bryant, Highsmith, Cain, Hampton...waiting in the wings.
I can't wait to see what Jovic, Jaquez, ORobinson, Highsmith and Cain bring to the table this year. 1-2 could be starters and 1-2 more could be solid rotation players...maybe by later this season.
GO HEAT!!!
When it comes to trading, the question is whether either team is interested. Rozier is an intriguing player, but I can't seem to accurately determine his trade value. It would be great if 1-2 of Jovic, Jaquez, ORobinson, Highsmith, or Cain could become reliable rotation players and help elevate the team (I highly hope so). However, expecting them to start right away is unrealistic. They need to prove themselves at a higher level before being considered as potential starters. Of course, they may be called upon to start due to strategic matchups or injuries, but as legitimate starters, not yet.
I know you have suggested trading for Rozier before but is that even something Charlotte has been trying to do?
So are Heat trading for Holiday or what? Jrue is the two way standard... if Cronin picks up the phone now are the Heat willing?
Of course, Riley cant wait to trade both Bam and Butler for JRue.
"Deplorable behavior" by Blazers general manager Joe Cronin makes the idea of Miami re-engaging Portland to discuss Holiday "unappealing if not unrealistic," per Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald.
If you're asking if the fanbase would be willing, sure. If you're asking if the front office would be willing, you dialed the wrong number.
Meanwhile in Portlandia...
Jessfboysen17
"Dame gave his heart and soul to the City of Portland.
In return the franchise surrounded him with Clowns like Allen, Olshey, Cronin, and Billups. We overpaid guys like Crabbe, Leonard, Turner and that bum Jusuf Nurkic. We traded away valuable assets, blew it in the draft and signed washed up burnt out free agents. Any and every team fleeced us at the bargaining table.
Dame remained loyal until the end.
Now we move forward with the Cronin, Billups, and Ayton. We grossly overpaid Jerami Grant. Somebody will take advantage of Cronin when we trade Jrue Holiday. We have nobody to teach the young guys Scoot, Sharp, Simmons -
Good luck Dame - Love you man.
47 years a Blazers fan - I’m officially done with this franchise.
LimitedUpside
Blazers could LOSE 1st round pick next year? Lillard revealed Cronin asked him to sit for final 10 games to improve draft position. This will trigger a league investigation and - well, that could be all they need to sanction Portland. My guess is they nullify our pick next year, which could be a Top 5 selection. Huge management mistake, and this sets the team back.
I'll say it again, Cronin has a long future as a terrible GM :P
Just because he didn't tarde with Heat doesn't make him a bad gm , he is turning Lillard trade in multiples picks , I don't see brogdon playing for blazers and I can see Clippers giving 1 pick plus someone young . Pat got arrogant so the " heat culture
The Heat is scheduled to hold its annual media day on Monday, October 2 before opening training camp on Tuesday, October 3.
Yahooooo!
GO HEAT!!!
i personally dont think milws any better.whos going to defend kyle lowry now lol
Venerable ol' buffalo booty too venerable. Dame gna find the grass ain't all that greener out east ^^
mt lopez portis middleton greek dame connaghton crowder looks good on paper how will they mesh another story
I went to Portland site, to see, what fans think about Lillards attempt to return to Portland.
Well, they agree with Cronin.
There goes the best player in franchise history and nobody care.
Nice payback for 11 years of loyalty.
I spend a fair amount of time on Blazers Edge. I consider myself a Blazers fan as much as a Heat fan. But a big chunk of those people are the most miserable bunch of bastards I've ever encountered in my life. Makes me grateful for the community at HHH
Unfortunately not the case any more. A large portion of our fan base has become the Celtics.
How so?
I understand folks from Philly, NY, Boston or LA can behave in such way. But forums, which covers "smaller" teams doesnt differ much from HHH, at least what I saw when visiting other forums. A morron here and there, and thats it. I wonder why Portlands forum is different.
Ive checked that site also. I think they're (fans) better than celtsblog, ny, philly, hawks...
Right now they're divided who lied to whom between Dame and Cronin. Quite fun and entertaining
I haven't spent a bunch of time on NY or ATL fansites, but I liked talking trash with the folks in philly and celticsblog. the milwaukie one is good. dallas is good. denver is awful. golden state is bad.
i would say a good fan site is one where people talk a little bit of trash but mostly just want to talk about basketball.
Now go look at the Blazers site, see how many people are talking about positional fit or playing style for the new-look team. Then compare that to how many people are mad at Dame or mad at the Heat or just mad at the person that made the comment above theirs. Just a bunch of miserable bastards getting mad at each other. And the worst part, the one thing nobody seems to be upset about is the fact that the team stinks!
I l ltake a look.
It's even crazier than that, man. Half the thread after the article is already prospecting Jrue trades. Here's my favorite:
Heat: Holiday
Nets: Lowry
Blazers: Simmons, Jacquez, 2027 Suns unprotected (via BRK), 2029 Heat unprotected, 2028 Swap Option with Heat
Trying to round out the picks they left on the table from the Dame trade 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thats far better return then for Lillard.
Must be the denial stage
pat cronin sean sign dam deal
One door closes…another will open. Also Holiday is actually past his prime. He has lost a step physically. Will want huge money next year. Why take on another aging vet strapping the payroll & gutting the roster. No thanks. There will be better options ahead hopefully . Fingers crossed.
Yup. Some people just don’t get that.
Agreed. I would take him for THIS year but it's going to end like a poop bomb
maybe with jrich back jnicho 20 will be back the lebron james of hhh
heat are fine theyll be around 50 wins and vying for a shot in the finals with milw and boston again
Not without a trade or two. Heat are projected to be as low as #16 team in the NBA and as low as #6-8 in the east.
6-8 just abt right. I think they made the finals being #8 if my memory serves me well. Go Heat!
jimmy was out about 25 games thats why
i got milw heat bost phily.we are better bryant j rich orob hampton .lose strus gabe we are better.porzingis if healthy could make bost better .as long as jim stays healthy we good
wow! is that really you HFL?! or you hijacked our dude...give him back!!!!
I’m putting out a police Be On The Lookout alert to find the real hfl 😆
im at boma
lillard doesnt want to be in milw.he wanted the gm to rescind the deal.the deal was done behind lillards back.maybe jimmys on the phone telling him pat will get it done eventually maybe he doesnt report to milw?not sure what the rule is if a player doesnt honor a trade could be a first
Dame has wanted to play on a contender and also has wanted to play on same team as Greek Freak for years.
more than bam?no.dont think hes happy.ask to rescind deal
Yup. He issued a positive statement about being in Milwaukee. His primary goal is a ring.
do u thikk jimmy asks for a trade then.he cant be happy.seems to be in la alot they gotta couple good teams there,him with ad lebron.or oft injured pg kawhi.
Naw. Unlike some folks, he is in it for the long haul. He is truly "Heat for life."
how do u know that.these athletes these days want $$ and rings in that order.he has $$ not ring.do u think the heat can win it all sunman with current roster
No. For them to have a chance upgrades are definitely needed. I would love to see Miami acquire a good two-way PG and a good two-way/athletic PF or C (who can shoot 3's, rebound and defend) to pair with Bam. I think ORob has potential if his defense improves.
I'm glad that this trade didn't happen. Lillard is about to start rapidly declining. We don't need old small players taking up so much of our cap space.